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Overview of detox stages during the MC

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  • Started 10 years ago by LemonheadPat
  • Latest reply from Barbara

  1. Detoxification Stages

    Here is an overview of the detoxification stages during a juice fast. The time periods are a general estimation.

    Stage 1 (Day 1 To Day 2)
    On the first day of fasting, the blood sugar level drops below 70 mg/dl. To restore the blood to the normal glucose level, liver glycogen is converted to glucose and released into the blood. This reserve is enough for half a day. The body then reduces the basal metabolic rate (BMR). The rate of internal chemical activity in resting tissue is lowered to conserve energy. The heart slows and blood pressure is reduced. Glycogen is pulled from the muscle causing some weakness. The first wave of cleansing is usually the worst.

    Headaches, dizziness, nausea, bad breath, glazed eyes and a heavily coated tongue are signs of the first stage of cleansing. Hunger can be the most intense in this period unless the enema is used which quickly assists the body into the fasting state by ending digestion in the colon.

    Stage 2 (Day 3 To Day 7)
    Fats, composed of transformed fatty acids, are broken down to release glycerol from the gliceride molecules and are converted to glucose. The skin may become oily as rancid oils are purged from the body. People with problem-free skin may have a few days of pimples or even a boil. A pallid complexion is also a sign of waste in the blood. Ketones are formed by the incomplete oxidation of fats. It is suspected that the ketones in the blood suppress the appetite by affecting the food-satiety center in the hypothalamus. You may feel hungry for the first few days of the fast. This effect is temporary. The desire to eat will disappear. Lack of hunger may last 40 to 60 days, depending on whether you are on water or juice.

    The body embraces the fast and the digestive system is able to take a much-needed rest, focusing all of its energies on cleansing and healing. White blood cell and immune system activity increases. You may feel pain in your lungs. The cleansing organs and the lungs are in the process of being repaired. Periodically, the lymphatic system expels mucoid matter through the nose or throat. The volume excreted of this yellow-colored mucus can be shocking. The sinuses go through periods of being clogged, then will totally clear. The breath is still foul and the tongue coated. Within the intestine, the colon is being repaired and impacted feces on the intestinal wall start to loosen.

    Stage 3 (Day 8 to Day 15)
    On the latter part of an extended fast, you can experience enhanced energy, clear-mindedness and feel better than you have felt since childhood. On the downside, old injuries may become irritated and painful. This is a result of the body's increased ability to heal during fasting. If you had broken your arm 10 years before, there is scar tissue around the break. At the time of the break, the body's ability to heal was directly related to lifestyle. If you lived on a junk-food diet, the body's natural healing ability was compromised.

    During fasting, the body's healing process is at optimum efficiency. As the body scours for dead or damaged tissue, the lymphocytes enter the older, damaged tissue secreting substances to dissolve the damaged cells. These substances irritate the nerves in the surrounding region and cause a reoccurrence of aches from previously injured areas that may have disappeared years earlier. The pain is good as the body is completing the healing process. The muscles may become tight and sore due to toxin irritation. The legs can be the worst affected, as toxins accumulate in the legs. Cankers are common in this stage due to the excessive bacteria in the mouth. Daily gargling with salt and water will prevent or heal cankers.

    Stage 4 (Day 16 to Day 30)
    The body is completely adapted to the fasting process. There is more energy and clarity of mind. Cleansing periods can be short with many days of feeling good in between. There are days when the tongue is pink and the breath is fresh. The healing work of the organs is being completed. After the detoxification mechanisms have removed the causative agent or render it harmless, the body works at maximum capacity in tissue proliferation to replace damaged tissue. While a short fast will reduce the symptoms, a longer fast can completely heal. Homeostatic balance is at optimum levels. The lymphatic system is clean except for a rare discharge of mucus through the nose or throat. After day 20, the mind is affected. Heightened clarity and emotional balance are felt at this time. Memory and concentration improve.

    Stage 5 (Breaking the Fast)
    The sticky, toxic, mucoid coating on the intestinal wall is loose, and the first meal frees it from the intestinal wall. Toxins enter the blood through the colon. The gallbladder dumps its waste in a heavy discharge of bile. This can cause an instant bowel movement upon eating followed by intense diarrhea. If the symptoms are too uncomfortable, an enema will help.

    The Master Cleanse - "Cleansing the world one cell at a time"
    Posted 10 years ago #
  2. Anonymous


    Posts: 1

    This has to be the best explanation of what your body does while it detoxifies. I've always wondered how it all worked.

    I'm busy trying to get my wife to do the MC with me, but she's afraid of the detox symptoms & about how she will feel without eating any solids.

    I think that as soon as she reads this, she'll understand better.

    thanks...

    Posted 10 years ago #
  3. Anonymous


    Posts: 1

    interesting indeed!!

    Posted 10 years ago #
  4. Mike

    lemonHead
    Posts: 226

    That all sounds a lot more extreme than any of my experiences! Don't let any of that put you off, its obviously a worst case scenario. Everyone's experience is different though I guess. Mine was pretty mild to be honest, hardly any of that - the worst was the caffeine headache on day one and a bit of the old lower back pain. The energy benefits soon outweighed anything detox was unearthing.

    "I am responsible - the creator of my own experience."
    Posted 10 years ago #
  5. Pooler

    Junior
    Posts: 5

    I'm a 46 yr old first timer. On day 4 today. Yesterday I started getting serious pains in my legs. I couldn't sleep last night and this morning it still very painful. It moves from my coccyx area and concentrates in my upper hamstrings. Feels like my nerves are on fire. Is this normal? Am I aslo supposed to just be passing yellow bile at this stage?

    Posted 8 years ago #
  6. Mike

    lemonHead
    Posts: 226

    Hi Pooler. Detox symptoms vary with each person, and while there are many common symptoms there is definitely no "normal" that applies to everyone! In general, the older your are the more likely you are to have detox issues. Stands to reason really. Day 3 is also where the first signs of major detox symptoms usually appear and you seem to be right in that zone.

    To bring in a little perspective for yourself though, here is something you might find useful: Ask yourself this question - is the pain at all familiar, have you felt it before?

    More often than not a detox symptom which at first seems unusual or "different" is actually the body revisiting sites where there were previous issues or injuries. Sometimes its a wound that never healed properly, sometimes an issue that was ignored or suppressed by medication or other 'treatment'. You will find, now that the body is freed from dedicating most of its resources to digestion, it unerringly zooms in on areas that need attention, highest priority first. So, if the pain is familiar then you can relax and just try to ride it out. When it passes, it will be gone for good. In this way the pains are a good sign.

    If the pains are not familiar it could still be an issue that you were unaware of prior to this. Again, rest, relax and try and ride it out. It should never last much more than three days at the most. This is a common response, known as a "healing crisis" (see the forum post about the Herxheimer Reaction) which in essence says that sometimes things tend to temporarily get worse before they get better.

    How much pain and how long you stick it out though are always personal choices and the call is yours.

    And yes, if your SWF is working well, most of the time you'll be passing yellow liquids, a great portion of which is bile, that is quite normal.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  7. Pooler

    Junior
    Posts: 5

    Thanks for the quick response. These pains are quite familiar. Prior to this Monday I spent every Monday to Friday for the last 3 weeks not eating anything during the day besides Lemon juice (bottle), Cayenne pepper (lots) and honey. Then at night and weekends I ate normal. In the second week I got these pains. Believe it not the last time was in the early 80's when I was in the Bats and it was on the 3 week PT course and then again during varsity when I was palying provincial rugby. I can't believe that these pains I've felt in my lower back were not muscular or skeletal but actually due to toxic overload??? If thats true then a whole new pain free life awaits. Can't wait

    Posted 8 years ago #
  8. Mike

    lemonHead
    Posts: 226

    Okay, now that's a good start. Don't get too excited too soon though! Its not possible to assume that toxicity is the cause, but I subscribe to the holistic approach that says any disease exists because the body is generally toxic and weak, not just some specific cause in some specific part. When the body is healthy and fit it will fight off and clear almost anything. When its not, some things will start to gain a foothold and slowly start getting out of hand. Kind of like the border war? When there are enough troepies to cover the area, no problem. But when the border area is too large and the troepies spread too thin and too busy with logistics like food...well, the results are history :)

    How well your body resolves the issue all depends on the severity and the time it needs to work through it. As I said, I think its a really good sign as it is actively under repair now. You need to keep going on the Cleanse, and if you're still having symptoms when your ten days are up you need to keep going until there are no more. Also remember that detoxing is quite cyclic. Your body will go through phases of it, usually around 3-4 days apart. You've obviously had this issue a while, so don't expect it all to disappear overnight (of course that's not to say it's not possible tho!)

    Not sure where you got the idea for a week on honey and lemon juice and then eating at weekend? Doesn't sound too good to me! You need to keep the process going, not interrupt it and then restart. Going in and out of a semi fasting state is nowhere near as good as doing it continuously. You will just confuse your body with the famine/feast and it takes at least 3 days to properly change modes, as it were. Stanley Burroughs was also highly critical of using honey and I tend to believe him as, so far, everything else he's said has proved 100% spot on!

    I hope this starts giving you a new respect for what an incredible organism your body is...

    Good luck and Vasbyt :)

    Posted 8 years ago #
  9. Pooler

    Junior
    Posts: 5

    The original way I did it was because of making the fatal error of not doing enough reading and research (the Master Cleanse thing is done to death on the internet but with some very misleading and vague info). But thank goodness I made my way here because I saw from the previous 3 weeks I wasn't getting anywhere. Thanks for the support

    Posted 8 years ago #
  10. Pooler

    Junior
    Posts: 5

    Morning,

    Day 8. My wife only went to the loo for the first time on Sat (Day 6) and not again since. She's seriously grumpy...and yes she's increased the salt to almost 3 teaspoons. I had 1/2 a slice of bread yesterday (and 2 grapes)..does that mean I've undone everything or must I just gaan aan?

    Have you heard of Brad Pilon who is the author of Eat Stop Eat? Very interesting.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  11. karen_c

    Senior
    Posts: 47

    Hi Pooler. Definitely not a good idea to be eating in the middle of your cleanse you naughty boy!

    Your body will now start coming out of its fast mode and think you're eating again and release a lot of minerals and vitamins it would otherwise be storing. It will take up to 3 days to get back to where it was before you started eating! Yes, even the proverbial "just a little something" will do it. But just get over it and get back on the programme. Minus 2 days for bad behaviour. Haha :)

    As for the SWF, it definitely happens with people that it doesn't work for days. Stanley Burroughs said to maybe drink more water afterwards or do another one (the actual quote: "possibly take extra water with or without salt. This often increases the activity). He also said "Remember, it can do no harm at any time"

    I don't think its a reason to worry (or get grumpy) about ;)

    Posted 8 years ago #
  12. Barbara

    Senior
    Posts: 10

    Hi Pooler,
    wonder how you are doing now? I really think it is NB to do the homework, to read Stanley Burroughs' book as well as "The MC A Survivor's Guide" by Mike. As far as the SWF is concerned, I had no reaction until day 6 or 7 (can't remember now, but it seemed like an eternity at the time). I don't think the salt should be increased to more than 3 teaspoons a time (as Mike advises). Also, it seems important to follow all the instructions to the letter. I hope you do not suffer from those pains any longer. If they are constant and not getting better I do think you should have them seen to (my humble advice as a doctor).

    Posted 8 years ago #

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